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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2005 (May-June) » Archive through May 20, 2005 » Ta ceist agam faoi an frása Sasanna « Previous Next »

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Stiobhard
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A Chairde.

Ta mé ag obair ar mo party piece agus bhuil mé an balla le an frása OF WITH HIS HEAD. aon leideanna ?

Go raith maith agaibh

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Stiobhard
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

OPPS go mo leisceal OFF WITH HIS HEAD

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Rath
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 01-2004


Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post

A Stiobháird, a chara,

Tagann sé seo as an leabhar "Eachtraí Eilíse i dTír na nIontas" (Alice's Adventures in Wonderand as Gaeilge) . . .
Baintear an cloigeann dhe !!

Rath

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Eily
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Sin an aimsir mícheart, a Rath.

Sin an saorbhriathar, aimsir láithreach.
"Someone removes their heads."

Tá an Modh Ordaitheach uait. "Bain a gcinn díobh!" Remove their heads.

Ach is dócha go bhfuil leagan cainte níos fearr ann.

A Aonghuis? An bhfuil frás níos Gaelaí ann?

A Stiobháird, a chara! Cén fáth a bhfuil frás mar sin uait? A bhfuil pleann agat slád a dhéanamh orainn???? Briseann an dúchas.......

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Lúcas
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Post Number: 184
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A Eily, a chara,

You and Rath are both correct. As you point out, baintear is the impersonal form, present tense, indicative mood of bain. However, as Rath infers, it is also the impersonal form, ordinal mood of bain. As such, Rath's phrase could be translated, "Let someone harvest the head of him."

I think the Queen of Hearts is more likely to say that then what you suggest. Your ordinal form is second person, singular, which would be more appropriate if she were ordering a specific person to "harvest his head." As I recall, the Queen was not directing a command at a specific subject. Anyone could please her Majesty by lopping of Alice's cloigeann, so Rath's quotation seems more suited to the situation.

However, I agree with your question. A Stiobháird, cé leis an cloigeann atá uait?

Mise le meas,

Lúcas
Ceartaigh mo chuid Gaeilge, mura miste leat .

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Stiobhard
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A Chairde

Is rún é.

HE HE HE HE

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Stiobhard
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Post Number: 7
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

hee hee hee

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Stiobhard
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Post Number: 8
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

go mo leisceal a chairde . GO RAITH MAITH AGAIBH.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Nicholas Williams in his translation uses "Baintear an cloigeann de".

I'd go with that.

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Stiobhard
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Is maith liom do freagra a Lucas .

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Eily
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post

GRMA Aonghuis,Rath is Lucais,

Ní raibh an ceart agam mar a tharlaíonn go han-mhinic. Ach nach deis álainn é an forum seo a bheith ag foghlaim?



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