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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 520
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 07:04 am: | 
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Q1: No smoking
"Ná caitear tobac"
What is "caitear"? I would've thought "No smoking" would be translated as:
Ná caith tobac
Ná caithigí tobac
Cros ar chaitheamh tobac
So where does "caitear" come from?
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Q2: Cén
Is "cén" a contraction of "cad é an"?
Cén buachaill = Cad é an buachaill?
Now what about:
Cad í an chaoi
Does "cad í an" become "cén" aswell?
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Q3: Cé na
How do you say:
What are the books you took?
My first guess would be:
Cad iad na leabhair ar thóg tú?
But I've also heard and seen:
Cé na leabhair ar thóg tú?
Is "cé na" just a contraction of "cad iad na"?
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If I think of any more I'll give you a shout! |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 1360
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 07:20 am: |
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caith: Modh orduitheach, briathar saor "caitear"
Maidir leis na cinn eile:
cén
cé2 + an.
cé [mír cheisteach]
cad é an duine nó an rud (cé hé sin? cén chaoi a bhfuil tú?). |
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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 522
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 07:35 am: |
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Ní thuigim "Modh orduitheach, briathar saor".
Nuair a bhítear ag tabhairt ordaithe, deirtear:
Ná caith tobac
Mar sin, cén fáth go n-úsáidtear "caitear"?
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Cé = who or what
An bhfuil sé sin ceart?
Mar sin:
cé = cad = céard ?
What did you take? = Cé a thóg tú? (Bhfuil sin ceart?)
(Message edited by Fear_na_mBróg on May 06, 2005) |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 1361
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 07:44 am: |
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"Let tobacco not be smoked"
Tá sé níos ginearálta ná "ná caith tobac".
Níl mé cinnte faoi cé agus cad - tá mé ag ceapadh go mbaineann an cheist sin le nósanna canúna.
Seans go bhfuil tuairim ag duine éigin eile ar sin. |
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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 524
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 08:25 am: |
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So it's sort of letting you know that "tobacco isn't smoked" here.
It's sort of like a mixture of:
A) Ní chaitear tobac
B) Ná caith tobac
A + B = Ná caitear tobac
...geez Irish sure does plunge the depths. |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 1363
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 09:03 am: |
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What does "No smoking" mean? It is wider than "Thou shalt not smoke" - it implies "Thou shalt also see to it that no one else does" -> Ná caitear tobac. |
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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 526
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 09:36 am: |
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Maybe I'm just trying to understand why we say certain things again. . . I should probably just accept that:
Don't smoke = Ná caith tobac
No smoking = Ná caitear tobac
Plain and simple!
So:
No running = Ná ritear ? |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 1365
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 09:40 am: |
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Sin é. Ach ná léimtear chuig cinntí... (Calque an lae - don't jump to conclusions...) |
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