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Kevinb
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Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 05:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post

A chairde,

A friend asked me how to translate "know thyself" into gaeilge. After a bit of web searching I found many varying ways and am not sure on the best translation. what do you guys think?

Go raibh maith agat.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 06:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post

"Bíodh aithne agat ort fhéin" would be literal and correct, but feels clumsy.

This seems to be a quote from the Oracle at Delphi; it would be nice to see how it is translated to other languages - any takers?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Aithin tú fhéin! is a bit punchier, using the imperative of "aithint"

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Dennis
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

As you wish, Aongus, starting with the original Greek:

Gnôthi seauton.

Nosce te ipsum.

Erkenne dich selbst.

Känn dig själv.

Conócete a ti mismo.

Connais-toi toi-même.

Spoznaj samega sebe.

Ismerd meg önmagad.

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Ó_diocháin
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A chairde,
As Iodáilis

Conosci te stesso!

Le meas,
Chris

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Peadar_Ó_gríofa
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Conhece-te a ti mesmo.

Coneix-te a tu mateix.

Cunoaşte-te pe tine însuţi.

Peadar Ó Gríofa

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Peadar_Ó_gríofa
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Post Number: 174
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Познај самога себе.

Peadar Ó Gríofa

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Lúcas
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Pig Latin: Oh-knay iself-thay

Mise le meas,

Lúcas
Mas miste leat ceartaigh mo chuid Gaeilge.

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Fumble Fervent
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Bí umhal duit féin = Kowtow unto thyself.

Más mian liom…?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

quote:

Erkenne dich selbst.



is one I understand. So I'll stick with "Aithin tú fhéin"

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Peadar_Ó_gríofa
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Нема никакве праве философије допкле год се дух не окрене у се и не испита самога себе. Гнотхи сеаутон, рекао је Сократ: Упознај самога себе.

— Вил Дурант, УМ ЦАРУЈЕ
Will Durant, The Story of Philosophy, The Lives and Opinions of the Greater Philosophers
(Причања о философији, животи и мишљења великих пилософа).
Превео с енглеског
д-р МИЛОШ ЂУРИЋ.
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The verb in "Упознај самога себе" (as opposed to "Познај…") is perfective, so this version is equivalent to "Cuir aithne ort féin" or "Make thine own acquaintance." So, what is the verb aspect in the Greek expression? Let's see…it's the aorist, so the Serbian perfective is accurate, and so is "Cuir aithne ort féin"; but I guess "Aithin thú féin" is too. Something like "Perceive who thou art."
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το γνώθι σαυτόν έστιν, αν τα πράγματα
ειδής τα σαυτού και τι σοι ποιητέον.

Menander, fragment.

— Henry Lamar Crosby and John Nevin Schaeffer, “An Introduction to Greek”

Peadar Ó Gríofa

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Fumble Fervent
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Ná cuir eagla ort féin = Kow not thyself.



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