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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2005 (March-April) » Archive through March 22, 2005 » Cad é atá an difear? « Previous Next »

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Maidhc Ó G.
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Posted From: 64.12.116.136
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Dia daoibh , a chairde. Bhí mé ag chaint le cara agus chuaigh aníos na ainmneacha Seán agus Eoin. Tá a fhios agam go bhfuil an dhá iad 'John' as Béarla - ach, cad é atá an difear eatarthu ? An bhfuil ceann ainm ó naoimh agus an t-ainm eile ó tadhg nó ní hea? Bhíomar ach amhrasach faoin.
An bhfuil a fhios ag éigin ?
Go raibh maith agaibh.

Maidhc.

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Cailin
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Posted From: 194.165.169.90
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I'm not sure if there really is any difference. There is no such thing as translating names into English. The two names probably derive from 'John' but they are two seperate different names. I've also been told that Janet, Jennifer and Jan are all 'Sinéad'. So, I don't think there's much logic going on!
But then, I'm no expert, it's just my opinion!

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'dj@ks
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Posted From: 159.134.221.246
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Viking Johann - Eoin?
English John - Séan?

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Mack
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Posted From: 12.75.205.92
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Some names have what is called the ecclesiastical form -e.g. Eoin is the biblical form of John, Iaróm is Jerome, Iarla is Jarlath. Don't know why because it doesn't seem to apply to all names.

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SMcS
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Posted From: 83.70.247.201
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Muire [Mother of Jesus] v Máire [normal Mary]

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Maybe Eoin < Latin Iohannes...

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 1156
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Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Most European languages have several forms of the biblical name John, as it was a popular name.

I have a vague feeling that Seán came from an earlier form Seon from english John.

Eoin is always used for both John the Baptist and John the Evangelist. The only exception I know to this is that the feast of John the Baptist, 24 June, is known as Lá Sin Seáin in Conamara.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 1158
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Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 05:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I checked with Ó Corráin and Maguire, Irish Names
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0946640661/104-8586267-5214318)

Apparently the path is

Jochannan (Hebrew) -> Ioannes (Latin) -> Eoin (Irish)


Jochannan (Hebrew) -> Ioannes (Latin) -> Jehan (French, 13C) -> Seán, Seon,... (Irish)

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Cailin
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Posted From: 193.203.149.249
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Mo Dhia! You all know so much! I feel so uneducated!

Cailín

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'dj@ks
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Posted From: 159.134.220.229
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

"Mo Dhia! You all know so much! I feel so uneducated!"
-Cailín

Well my example was not right. Thats not too educated.

Viking Johann - Eoin?
English John - Séan?

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Maidhc Ó G.
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Posted From: 152.163.100.136
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A Dhia dhílis! An méid sin freagraí ó bhí mé aige sin a shcríobh!
Go raibh maith agaibh, a chairde.

Maidhc.



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