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Tj_mg
Member Username: Tj_mg
Post Number: 13 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 11:51 am: |
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I am aware that this is somewhat off-topic but I'm having a lot of trouble finding answers online and getting them from the proper organizations(The embassy basically said they don't know and gov depts haven't replied). I'm hoping someone here who lives in Ireland, perhaps someone actually moved to Ireland, could help. I'm trying to move to Ireland but so far I can't find any way to do this permited by Irish law(short of marrying someone). Ireland has essentially banned all aliens(Non-EU nationals) from obtaining a job since work permits are granted only when an employer proves no EU citizen can perform the job(Is this possible?) and a third-level degree is required(I'm studying for one and my studies will allow me to remain in Ireland for more than 90-days but not over the summer which is part of the reason I need permission for longer residency). Has anyone actually been able to suceed in moving to Ireland with these laws? Apparently, there's no way to gain citizenship without being allowed to move to Ireland(again, short of "cheating" which would be marrying or asylum). |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 1029 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 04:51 am: |
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Dan
Member Username: Dan
Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 10:28 pm: |
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Tj_mg
Member Username: Tj_mg
Post Number: 15 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 08:15 am: |
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Unfortunately, Oasis offers no more than the minimal info for residency of students and doesn't really give much info about naturalization(Though there appears to be a page about residency through marriage but not through other means). I found an Irish Times article about the proposal of a "Green Card" system. That would possibly be useful after obtaining a degree if it was actually put into action though who knows if it actually would as I've found the same proposals mentioned on news sites from 2000 and 2002. I've read all of the relevant documents on justice.ie which are vague when it comes to trying to find out the duration of a student's permitted stay or how to stay during the summer. It seems having a work permit is the only way to get permission to stay other than for study, marriage, or asylum. A work permit requires "qualifications" which seemed to be defined by justice.ie as including a third-level degree which means I can't get a work permit until I graduate, though I hope that a BSc is sufficient and the Ministry of Justice isn't actually expecting one to have a post graduate(I can't really even afford these 4 years) as no job in the Computing/IT/Software/Programming industry should actually require more than a BSc(There are many job postings that are laughable for even requiring a BSc for jobs that seem to entail only end user activities including database and system administration). This line is interesting: " in a very, very few instances, a great-grandparent who is an Irish-born citizen"... Missed by one generation. I believe the government should consider going one more generation back in the case of applicants who have this sort of relatives of that generation on many sides(Same generation on both the maternal and paternal sides of my mother's family and the same generation on my Dad's mother's side though I have no information about the Duffy name on my father's father's side). Even if it were allowed though, I don't have documents from any relative. There may be some from my father's side but certain relatives to whom my family no longer speaks has all documents. |
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