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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 1999-2004 » 2004 (October-December) » Archive through November 11, 2004 » Pronunciation difference « Previous Next »

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Poblachtach
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

ba mhaith liom go bhfuil fhios agam conas d'fhuaimneoinn

'an imeoidh sé ' agus 'an imíodh sé'

nil fhios agam an dhifear nó ní chluineann sé an-maith

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Poblachtach
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

rather than start a new thread for another question i have , I will just slip it in here and hope someone on this thread can answer it too.

need to know if this is a typo
an ndeachaigh sé? did he go?

shouldn´t it be ar ndeachaigh sé?

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 375
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I would say "an ndeachaigh sé" is correct, but I believe that "ar ndeachaigh sé" is good northern grammar!

As far pronunciation, I don't do it.
But imeoidh is a broader sound than imíodh.

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Rebecca (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 04:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Imeoidh is pronounced with an 'o' sound before the 'e' sound.
Imíodh would be pronouced with an 'e' sound but with a 'ch' sound at the end as far as I'm aware.

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 232
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Past tense uses "níor" and "ar"... except for 6 of the 11 irregular verbs:

Chuaigh, Ní dheachaigh, An ndeachaigh?
Chonaic, Ní fhaca, An bhfaca?
Dúirt, Ní dúirt, An ndúirt?
Fuair, Ní bhfuair, An bhfuair?
Rinne, Ní dhearna, An ndearna?
Bhí, Ní raibh, An raibh?

That's the standard... however, in different dialects, there's one or two more or one or two less that get "ní" and "an". For example, I myself say:

Tháinig ; Níor tháinig ; Ar tháinig ; gur tháinig ; nár tháinig

but I've definitely seen written before:

Ní tháinig, go dtáinig

Ulster Irish I believe.

Also you'll hear and see "Ar chuaigh, gur chuaigh".

An imeoidh sé?

I myself say:

An n-imeoidh sé?

which I pronounce sort-of like:

On nimoey shay? ("oey" as in "Joey")

As for:

An n-imíodh sé?

On nim'ee'ug shay ( 'ee' as in "Eazy" )

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Poblachtach
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

go raibh maith agibh , bhi sé úsáideach sin



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