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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 1999-2004 » 2004 (July-September) » Archive through September 09, 2004 » TRANSLATION QUERY « Previous Next »

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Antoin O h Amhrain (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 193.120.238.186
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 03:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Im currently learning irish with a book "progress in Irish" by Mairead Ni Ghrada. Its a great book but unfortunately it doesnt give answers to the lessons.
So i have a technical query.
'ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR CUP?'
1. an bhfuil croichnaithe do chupan leat?
2. an bhfuil leat croichnaithe do chupan?
3. an bhfuil do chupan croichnaithe leat/agat?
Are any of these correct?
please excuse the lack of fadas!!

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 04:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post




|An bhfuil críochnaithe || agat || le do chupán! |
Verb Subject (you) Object (the cup)

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Seamás_macgabhann
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I have this book. It's very helpful.

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Canuck (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post


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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I myself would translate:

Are you finished with your cup?

as:

An bhfuil tú críochnaithe le do chupán?

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 04:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post

This is the same problem as in English:
does one say
a) "are you finished"
or
b) "have you finished"

I prefer b).

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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post

THANX, CANUCK.
THIS WILL ANSWER A LOT OF MY QUERIES.
But back to my orginal query. It was at lesson 19 that i encountered this problem.Although the sentence in not in the actual lesson it is based on these sentence structures.
So is there any rule for sentence structure because i am getting different versions which also seem to conlict with the book.
I think essentially the placing of the 'with' in the sentence is causing me the most problems.
do you use 'le' or 'leat'.
Go raibh maith agaibh,
Antoin

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post

leat = with you
le = with



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