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Canuck (216.241.232.218 - 216.241.232.218)
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post


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Natalie (142.166.235.178 - 142.166.235.178)
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I wish they would do that in more than just Nova Scotia in Canada...I would love for anything like that to be available here.

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Jonas (128.214.107.119 - 128.214.107.119)
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 04:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Hm, I don't know where you live, Natalie. Rather a lot more than that is available in Ireland, incomparably more in fact. Not that I wouldn't want to see more done in Ireland too, of course.

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Natalie (207.179.186.72 - 207.179.186.72)
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Well it's not like its out of the way for me, its just that, its not likely...i just mean that it would be nice if there were ways of learning Irish Gaelic around here (as in near my city). That's ok, maybe some day.

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OCG (82.69.43.131 - 82.69.43.131)
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Ní raibh a fhios agam go raibh Gaeltacht ann. An bhfuil canúint faoi leith acu?

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Seosamh Mac Muirí (193.1.100.104 - 193.1.100.104)
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 04:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Alt spéisiúil daoibh mu dhéidhinn/ faoi Ghaeilg na hAlban san Oileán Úr.

http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/celtic/ekeltoi/volumes/vol2/2_3/newton_2_3.html

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cailinfiosrach (134.226.1.136 - 134.226.1.136)
Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post

What city are you in, Natalie?

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Natalie (142.166.231.50 - 142.166.231.50)
Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I live in a small city in New Brunswick. New Brunswick isn't that far from Nova Scotia, but its not particularly convenient either. Why?

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Liam Ó Briain (194.125.133.220 - 194.125.133.220)
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Hi Natalie,
What's your take on French vs English speakers in Canada. Most Canadians I know distrust Quebec because it had a referendum on separation. In the other provinces Acadians are looked on with scorn. Why the hatred between French and English speaking Canadians?

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Canuck (24.103.116.213 - 24.103.116.213)
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Distrust? Scorn? Hatred?
Canada is a very large, extremely diverse, and tolerant country.
Liam, lets nip this one in the bud by keeping this thread dedicated to the Cape Breton Gaelic speaking area.
-Canuck

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Natalie (207.179.186.77 - 207.179.186.77)
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I'm sorry Canuck but I'm going to answer this because New Brunswick is really the only province in Canada that has both English and French as their languages. We're very close to Quebec so its hard for us to be anywhere against them. A long time ago, the Acadians were not only looked on with "scorn" but even before that, they were forced to leave and so on and so forth. A lot of people I heard of said their parents spoke English but their grandparents were French because like in most of the world I suppose, English was considered more dominant and a lot of trouble could be found with being French.

I'm not all that sure on what other people throughout Canada think about Quebec but then again, like has been mentioned, Canada is an extremely large country and the majority of Canadians probably haven't had close relations with the Quebecois. What I do know though is that in New Brunswick, you will find cities that are either mostly French or mostly English. The majority of the French speak English but not all the English speak French because English is the first language of Canada and maybe because there are more that speak it. A lot of kids in New Brunswick are taking French Immersion (like myself) because its already been put to us that when we grow up, its going to be more beneficial to be bilingual because things are changing. There was once a time in places that you only needed to speak English and now to do with anything important (parliament, etc.) you have to be able to do both.

I have nothing personally against anyone from Quebec or the French. I don't think they should separate from Canada just because they are the only true French province but that's just my opinion. If they did then they would split up the people who live in the Atlantic (ex: me) from everyone who lives in the West and Central Canada. Since we live where we do, we pretty much live in our own little world out here but I figure we'd be forgotten if we were split form them...lol, but that's probably just me overreacting.

I think its really the same in every country. There are always going to be different people and a time where a lot of them don't get a long. But then people grow up and they see that they were just being foolish all along. Most people or, probably rather all people, are fine with the French or the English because either it's not their problem or they realized its what classified them as being who they are.

I really hope this doesn't turn into a big argument. There's nothing to argue about. I'm not an expert (this is definitely for sure) but I am sure that this is no cause for some lengthy debate where people fight over their opinions. I never really say anything when we fight about Ireland or America because I don't live in either. I only see whats going on or hear whats going on. Anyway, thanks for the question...I'm usually not asked a lot of question, lol (maybe because I answer them too long). If you're really interested in any of this, maybe you should speak with someone else on here who is from another part of Canada or else search about it on google. :)

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O h-Eoghain (64.5.220.232 - 64.5.220.232)
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Hi a chairde. Just thought I'd jump in here and say hello. I noticed in the newsletter that some Daltaí are traveling on the cruise ship to Nova Scotia and New Brunswick next week. Maybe they could get some information from some people there who might know about courses available and whether there are any active associations for Irish descendents or people interested in all things "Eireannach".
Slán leibh

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Liam Ó Briain (194.125.133.245 - 194.125.133.245)
Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Hi Natalie,

Thank you very much for a most interesting reply. I love how tolerant Canada is as a country. I think you should head to Cape Breton because as well as being stunning there is a different feel to it from the rest of Nova Scotia which is Canada's best kept secret. There are actually four languages spoken there Gaedhlig, English, French and I think Mikmaq on one small island.

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Natalie (207.179.161.17 - 207.179.161.17)
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Yes, the Micmac live around here as well. I always wanted to go to Cape Breton and we were going to go not too long ago but we never had the chance. I hear its a very nice place though.

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Marilyn (69.199.152.84 - 69.199.152.84)
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Just a clarification about Nova Scotia's noteworthy efforts:

Nova Scotia is introducing SCOTTISH Gaelic into their education system, not Irish. Although the two are similar in many ways, there are also a lot of differences.

Natalie: I don't know where in New Brunswick you live but I'm in Fredericton and am studying Irish and have made contact with a few other like-minded persons in case you're interested.

Also, good answer to the French/English question. I am functionally bilingual and, living in Fredericton, New Brunswick, that's almost a necessity. Keep up your language studies and good luck.

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Marilyn (142.139.0.69 - 142.139.0.69)
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Natalie: You didn't include an e-mail address so I was unable to contact you directly but, I also live in New Brunswick (Fredericton) and would be interested in having another person to learn Irish with. As I mentioned previously, the Cape Breton project is bringing Scottish Gaelic into the school curriculum, not Irish, and also, people may not be aware that, even though we are in a neighbouring province, Cape Breton isn't just an hour or two away!

If you'd like to join in with a couple of us in this area, just let me know.

Go raibh maith agat.

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Natalie (198.164.96.89 - 198.164.96.89)
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Marilyn, I live in the Miramichi. For me Cape Breton is quite far and Fredericton, about 3 hours away. I would be very interested in learning to speak Irish in a group but unfortunately, even if I had a car and could drive that far, I'm only almost 16 now, lol, and don't have a driver's license. I left my email address if you still wanted to contact me. What exactly did you have in mind anyway? The only thing that I could probably do, is work over the internet but even to get the chance to learn with someone else would be a blessing. You people are probably a lot farther along than me though but still, if you still wanted to do anything, that would be fine with me. Thank you for offering. :)

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