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james d (209.86.140.8 - 209.86.140.8)
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Just out of curiosity, I was wondering if, in Ireland, there is a high demand for Irish language teachers, or if there is a glut of them? Does it depend on the school level?
Thanks,
jd

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Fear na mBróg (213.94.241.136 - 213.94.241.136)
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Just as much as every other subject. It's a compulsory subject from 1st Class to 6th Year, which = 11 years.

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Aonghus (62.77.191.130 - 62.77.191.130)
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post

There is a shortage of fluent Irish teachers; since there is a shortage of fluent Irish speakers.

The Gaelscoileanna, especially at second level which require a deeper knowledge of a subject, are short of teachers who can teach their subject through the medium of Irish.

There is a general shortage of primary teachers, and continuous controversy about the level of Irish which is demanded from teachers who trained outside the State, given that they have to teach the language as part of an integrated curriculum at primary level.

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james d (207.69.94.217 - 207.69.94.217)
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Aonghus,
What do you mean by "teachers who trained outside the state?"
James

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Antóin (159.134.180.28 - 159.134.180.28)
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

What do you mean by "teachers who trained outside the state?"
James

Teachers who trained outside the Republic of Ireland (26 counties) and have not studied Irish. They are required to reach a certain minimum standard in Irish before being allowed teach in Irish schools.

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james d (209.86.139.21 - 209.86.139.21)
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I see. I didn't realize there were that many people immigrating to teach in Irish schools. Isn't it relatively difficult to immigrate to Ireland? I was looking at the Irish Consulate website, and it seemed to suggest that only people with certain categories of skills which there was a shortage of in Ireland were allowed to obtain work permits. I thought that you had to be in one of those categories to immigrate. I remember seeing nurses and computer experts on the list, but don't recall seeing school teachers. Maybe I missed it.
james

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Aonghus (62.77.191.130 - 62.77.191.130)
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 06:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post

It mainly effects teachers who trained in the UK or the six counties, who would have a similar education system. Some of those would be Irish citizens who didn't get a place at a training college in Ireland. They have to then get a qualification here in Iish to teach in primary school.

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Brent (161.28.161.57 - 161.28.161.57)
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Speaking of immigration into Ireland... Is it easier to immigrate into Northern Ireland than it is into the Republic of Ireland? Or is it considered all the same for immigration?

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Antóin (159.134.181.52 - 159.134.181.52)
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

There are some differences but its pretty much the same. We're all in the EC now and citizens of the member states are free to live and work in any of the countries. There are some temporary restrictions on citizens of the new states that have just joined. There has always been a common labour market in the UK and the Republic of Ireland but until recently Ireland was not attractive to immigrants as jobs were in short supply and the standard of living was lower than neighbouring countries.

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Ed (24.185.210.123 - 24.185.210.123)
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

"Affects" a Aonghuis

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Aonghus (62.77.191.130 - 62.77.191.130)
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 04:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Damnú air a Ed, deanaim an botún san i gconaí!

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Ed (24.185.210.123 - 24.185.210.123)
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Is rud maith é, a Aonghuis, nach mbímse ag scríobh go han-mhinic. Bheadh an-lá agat agus tú ag ceartú na botúin a bhímse ag déanamh.

Gan do chabair ar an mbord seo, bheimis i gcrua cás gan dabht!

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Fear na mBróg (213.94.242.144 - 213.94.242.144)
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

ag ceartú na mbotún a mbímse ag déanamh

cruachás

Coimeád súil ar do ghramadach, a Ed!

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Ed (24.185.210.123 - 24.185.210.123)
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Gafa agat atá mé. GRMA, a Fhir.

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Fear na mBróg (213.94.242.33 - 213.94.242.33)
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Fear -> A Fhir
Fir -> A Fheara
Fear na mBróg -> A Fhear na mBróg

Tá fáilte romhat :)!

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