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luisa rechen (141.157.46.94 - 141.157.46.94)
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I'm having a bit of a battle about the pronunciation of the name of a mythical character. They're telling me that BRES is pronounced BRAY.That's not so, according to any Irish I've studied. I doubt they're getting this from Old Irish, as most of them don't even study Gaelic. Help!
Go raibh maith agat, Luisa

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Fear na mBróg (159.134.102.13 - 159.134.102.13)
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Bres

That s isn't going anywhere! If it's in the spelling in Gaeilge, then it's pronounced in Gaeilge.

Thus, one couldn't conceivably extract "Bray" from that.

An "ay" sound comes from either:

é

ae (which is treated as one letter and is broad)

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Aonghus (62.77.191.130 - 62.77.191.130)
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post

It is not safe to be dogmatic about how names were pronounced in Old Irish. Both spelling and pronunciation have changed a lot since.

And Bres is about as ancient a name as you can
get.

Foras Feasa ar Éireann, Keating's History written in the 17th Century gives this name as Breas

http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/G100054/

Maybe Dennis King or some scholar of Old Irish will drop by an give us some well founded information...

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