Chris Doyle (220.127.116.11 - 18.104.22.168)
|Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 04:39 pm: ||
Dia daoibh, a chairde,
Táim 15 bhliana d'aois, agus i seachtain amháin, tá orm dhá pháipéir scrudaithe a shuí do mo Teastas Sóisearach i nGaeilge.
Ach, tá an-imní orm. Thosaigh mé Gaeilge a fhoghlaim i 1992, ach tá mo gramadach etc... uafásach. Tá eagla orm ná dhéanfaidh mé go maith.
Please email me at email@example.com
if you have any advice. I apologise for my absolutely dreadful grammar and vocabulary. lol.
For those of you who don't know, An Teastas Sóisearach (The Junior Certificate) is the first official state examination in Ireland.
Go raibh maith agaibh,
Chris Doyle firstname.lastname@example.org
Seosamh Mac Muirí (22.214.171.124 - 126.96.36.199)
|Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:15 am: ||
Go n-éirí an scrúdú sin leat a Chris.
B'fhiú duit súil a chaitheamh ar 'grammar' de chuid Dhaltaí na Gaeilge
agus faoin teideal 'gramadach' ar an suíomh 'Gaeilge ar an Ghréasán'. http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaeilge/gaeilge.html
Phil (188.8.131.52 - 184.108.40.206)
|Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 01:24 pm: ||
I did the Junior Cert last year. First of all, here's my first bit of advice:
"An Teastas Sóisearach san Éireann" should be "An Teastas Sóisearach in Éirinn".
Éire = Ireland
na hÉireann = of Ireland "Bunracht na hÉireann"
Éirinn = Ireland (You use this one after a preposition. It's called the Dative case. Only a handful of nouns in Gaeilge have the Dative case)
"an-imní" should be "ard-imní"
"an-" before an adjective
"ard" before a noun
Bhí mé an-athásach
Bhí ard-athás orm
They both take a 'h'
"Thosaigh mé Gaeilge a fhoghlaim"
In Gaeilge, you never have that. It's always
"Thosaigh mé ag foghlaim Gaeilge" ( or "na Gaeilge" if you prefer )
Thosaigh mé ag imirt peile
"mo" takes a 'h'.
"mo" = 'h'
"do" = 'h'
"a" his = 'h'
"a" her = does NOT take a 'h'
The plurals take an urú
"Tá eagla orm ná dhéanfaidh mé go maith"
that "ná" should be "nach"
nach takes an urú
Déanfaidh mé go maith
Dúirt sé go ndéanfadh sé go maith
Ní dhéanfaidh mé go maith
Dúirt sé nach ndéanfadh sé go maith
In the past tense, you use "gur" and "nár"
Dhún mé an doras
Dúirt sé gur dhún sé an doras
Níor dhún mé an doras
Dúirt sé nár dhún sé an doras
Also, in Gaeilge, you have fear "before" something.
before = roimh
Tá eagla orm roimh an madra
I'm afraid of the dog.
Tá eagla orm roimh nach ndéanfaidh mé go han-mhaith.
One more thing
"i nGaeilge" should be "as Gaeilge"
It looks like you'll do grand in the Junior Cert. You won't get an A. You're definitely capable of a B though, which is the highest to be expected in a secondary school that isn't a Gaelscoil.
shay (220.127.116.11 - 18.104.22.168)
|Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 05:23 pm: ||
hey its 4 years since I did my junior but i know a few important things
one very important thing is that you use the right verbs.
if your doing the scéal make sure its all in the past tense eg bhí mé, chas mé, tháinig mé etc. Also learn some useful phrases like i bpreabadh na súl (in the blink of a eye), go tobann(suddenly) and a few of them examiners love them.Also always describe the weather at the
And if you know any for the cómhra know them too.
for the litir make sure the layout is right, address, date, introduction, mention all the points you are told to mention in the question and put an ending too.
youl have to remind me wat else is on the paper.Also if you put in the hard work theres no reason y u wouldnt get an A! many people who arent in a gael scoil get As
Phil (22.214.171.124 - 126.96.36.199)
|Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 05:42 am: ||
In my school, nobody got an A in Gaeilge in the Junior Cert. I myself got a B.
Oh yeah, for the letter, you should memorize the intro and outro (I just made me a new word!). That's what I did. I'll try write it now if I still know it:
Beir, bua agus beannacht. Conas atá tú!? Tá súil agam go bhfuil tú i mbarr na sláinte. Tá mise go maith, buíochas le Dia. Bhí ard-áthas orm do litir a fháil, ba fhada ó chuala mé uait. Táim ag scríobh chugat chun insint duit faoi...
Bhuel a Sheáin, caithfidh mé scór anois mar tá duine éigin ag an doras. Beidh mé ag súil le litir uait. Abair le do chlann go raibh mé á bhfiafraí. Slán go fóill.
I can't believe I remembered all that! anyway, that's exactly how I did it.
And for the comhrá, you should memorize all the phrases:
An gceapann tú gur amadán mé!
Go dtuga Dia ciall duit!
Ní raibh aon choinne agam thusa a fheiceáil!
Lá breá atá ann, nach ea!?
Shay (188.8.131.52 - 184.108.40.206)
|Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 04:11 pm: ||
my school wasnt a gael scoil there was 30 of us doing honours Irish and 4 of us got an A. Two of us got an A in the leaving.But just even sitting the honours is a great thing!
The best thing you can do is learn the different phrases that way you dont have to worry if your grammar is right.
Fáinne óir (220.127.116.11 - 18.104.22.168)
|Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 07:05 pm: ||
Nah! the best way to get the grammar right is to go to the Gaeltacht. That way you might get that "A".
James (22.214.171.124 - 126.96.36.199)
|Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 03:08 am: ||
The best way to get an "A" is to never accept the possibility of less than an "A". So you don't go to a gael scoil--so what! You study hard, put into practice all that you have learned and kick some linguistic butt!!!
The "A" is completely in your hands. I don't care what kind of school you went to!
Chris Doyle (188.8.131.52 - 184.108.40.206)
|Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 03:28 pm: ||
How embarrasing - years of doing Irish and I can't get the basics right. hehe.
All the advice so far is great, especially Phil's intro and "outro".
Now - I'm off to see if I can fix the paper. :-)