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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 1999-2004 » 2001 (July-December) » When 2 use tá muid or támid?? « Previous Next »

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Áine (f-airlock175.esatclear.ie - 194.145.135.175)
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Im only 14 and am not fluent at all in Irish, but I am getting really interested. There are a good few things I'd like 2 clear up, one of them being, when to say tá muid and when to say támid. I saw BEIDH MUID in the forum thats completely as Gaeilge. I also read it in Irish college someone wrote out my speech for Comortas na Tithe in irsh and she said, tá muid ann chun...... So I was hoping someone could clear that up from me. I hope u could understand my ramblings and u dont thinks its complete seafóid. Go raibh míle maith agaibh agaus tá súil agam go mbeidh freagar agam go luath. (Im sorry if I got bits of that wrong!!)

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Laighneach (212.2.173.11)
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Fair play Áine, I get the impression that you're native irish and am overjoyed that you're almost through the education system and lacking any resentment towards irish. That's great. To answer you're questions:

"Tá muid" and "Táimid" are exactly the same, just diferent dialects, though I can't tell you off hand which one is from which dialect, but they're both perfectly acceptable at saying "We are".

"Beidh muid" means "We will be" i.e. future tense, whereas "táimid" is present tense. That's the only difference.

I hope you stay interested, go n-éirí leat!

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Seosamh (1cust169.tnt68.nyc3.da.uu.net - 63.57.15.169)
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Táimid or táimíd are the conjugated forms and used by Irish speakers in Munster pretty much all the time. People will understand them everywhere, of course -- It's just a matter of a slender versus a broad 'm'. In Ulster Irish, people say all four of the following: táimid, támaid, tá muid and tá sinn. 'Táimid' is the form in Standard Irish so that is what you should use on any test or exam. Otherwise, it's up to you.

With other tenses and verbs the difference between these conjugated and nonconjugated forms can be more noticeable. Mar shampla, the past tense of 'tá' in the first person plural is 'bhíomar' in the standard and Munster. From Conamara northwards, people prefer 'bhí muid' (or bhíomaid, but it's rarely written that way). 'Bhíomar' would still be understood and actually used in short answers in Connaught.

Similarly, you have forms like cheannaíomar/cheannaigh muid (we bought), ghlanamar/ghlan muid (we cleaned), etc. Both forms in each pair are correct, as are minor variations.

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