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Liam Ó Briain (ajinte.lnk.telstra.net - 139.130.51.211)
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Just accessed a site by accident regarding welsh . It stated 27,000 welsh people live in Austraia with 1000 claiming to speak Welsh as their daily language according to the 1996 census.

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Fintan (neta.lisp.com.au - 203.21.133.124)
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

What is the address?

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Liam O Briain (210.9.124.115)
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Fintan,
I'm sorry but I didn't take down the address. I've just typed in Welsh and Australia and got the welsh choir in Melbourne Ringwood East. I find it quite amazing that here in Melbourne I can get 3 hours of irish on the radio a week- on zzz ethnic radio 92.3MHz Saturdays 11-12pm Sundays 6-7pm and on SBS am Wednesdays 10-11pm 1224MHz yet in irish cities apart from Dublin which has raidio na Life they do not have any irish programmes on their stations!!!

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Liam o Briain (ajinte.lnk.telstra.net - 139.130.51.211)
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Fintan I'm back with the address---http://www.lamp.ac.uk/oz/hughes/welsh20.html

Liam

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Sean (dial151.sunflower.org - 209.16.214.151)
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Australia has really great opportunities to
learn and listen to a variety of minority languages.
I understand there are many learning Cornish there
as well.

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LiamO Briain (087.012.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au - 203.134.168.87)
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I think the USA is much better for the irish language then Oz. The amount of fluent speakers I have met could be counted on two hands ie 10 or so. I have to ask why the welsh can come to Oz and speak their language while the irish can't. In Newfoundland I would have thought that the irish language would have survived in the most irish place on earth outside Ireland but it was lost in a generation. It was estimated that 90 per cent of the irish in Newfoundland in the early to mid 1800's spoke irish. How come Scottish Gaelic survived in Nova Scotia and not irish??
People learning irish is no help if they don't speak it later as a language of home.

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Seosamh (1cust101.tnt69.nyc3.da.uu.net - 63.57.18.101)
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Is fíor do Liam. Caithfidh í a labhairt. Ní leor í a bheith ann mar ábhar scoile.

Cá mhéad duine in Éireann a d'fhoghlaim an Ghaeilge, a thug cion di, atá mórálach fiú as í a bheith aige nó aici, agus a lig di dul ar ceal. Chonaic mé sin den chéad uair anseo i Meireacá nuair a bhí mé dhá bhliain déag d'aois nó mar sin. Thug duine ó Éirinn cuairt orainn, easbag a bhí ann, agus dúradh linn go raibh Gaeilge aige. Chuir muid ceisteanna air faoin teanga. Is cuimhin liom cé chomh míchompórdach is a d'éirigh sé. Chuir sé i bhféidhm agus i gcion orm go mbeadh sé amhlaidh do dhuine chomh húdarásach le heasbag!

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Seosamh (1cust101.tnt69.nyc3.da.uu.net - 63.57.18.101)
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A Liam, a language's survival depends on the attitude of the people who speak it. When they are very confident, they will keep it even when they immigrate to a new land, and maybe others will assimilate to it. If they lack confidence, it will weaken even in its homeland.

A study was done in several cities in the U.S. a few years ago about language retention among the American-born children of immigrants. Spanish is a world language; the Phillipines has, I believe, the third highest number of English speakers of any country in the world. No surprise, therefore, that the highest fluency rate was for first-generation Cubans in Miami -- more than 85%. The lowest was for children of Tagalog speakers in Los Angeles -- 46%.

I met someone whose father is from Venezuela and whose mother is from the Phillipines. Of course, he is now a native speaker of English who can also speak Spanish. But he can't speak his mother's native language. He says she never even mentioned what Phillipine language it was!

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Liam Ó Briain (069.012.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au - 203.134.168.69)
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A Sheosamh,

Tá cúpla moltaí agamsa maidir le forbairt an Gaeilge thar lear agus in Éirinn freisin. Ba chóir go mbeadh cór Gaeilge i ngach baile agus chathair san Astráil, Ceanada, An Talamh
Úr agus in Éirinn mar atá sa stáit Texas.
Feis mór sna tíre thuas luaite gach bhlian agus feiseanna beag tríd an bhlian.
Coláiste Samhraidh a bhunú i Newfoundland nó áit eile le airgid ó Rialtas na hÉirinn.
Cláracha Gaeilge ó thar lear ar Raidió na Gaeltachta ó mar shampla Nua Eabhrac gach coicís.
Caifé dhátheangach a bhunú ar fud an áit.
Leabharlann Gaeilge.
Níl an gaeilge agamsa-video conferencing.
Thar Lear eagras mar Comhluadar a bhunú agus iomaí imeachtaí ar siúl.

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Maureen Connelly (pool-162-83-200-122.ny5030.east.verizon.net - 162.83.200.122)
Posted on Friday, August 24, 2001 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Here is a Welsh language site the I found by spelling daltaí wrong. www.dalati.com if anyone is interested.

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Liam o Briain (170.012.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au - 203.134.168.170)
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Sa Bhreatain Bhig tá meadú acu ar an uimhir atá ag labhairt an Bhreatnais. Cén fáth nach bhfuil an phlean chéana ag Rialtas na hÉireann agus na heagraisí Gaeilge. Ná bí ag cur milleáin an t-am go léir ar an Rialtas. Éirí libh agus labhair an Gaeilge go hiomlán. Níl aon pointe bheith in áit tabhachtach in eagras gaeilge agus ag labhairt é uair nó dhó sa seachtain. Tuismitheoirí le páistí i ngaelscoileanna buail le chéile chun gaeilge a spreagadh.

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