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Mike
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2000 - 11:52 pm: | 
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Dia duit.
I am considering naming my boat"Granuaile" after Grace O'Malley. Is there a Gaelic spelling to this name?If so, might you provide a phonetic pronunciation?
Slainte,
mike |
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Laigheanach
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2000 - 06:10 am: |
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Gráinne mhaol
(GRAWN-YA WAIL) |
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Máire Ní Ógáin
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 04:35 am: |
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Wasn't that a nickname?
Her name was Gráinne Ní Mháille, which is usually anglicised as Grace O'Malley or Granuaile. It would be pronounced GRAWN-ya nee WALL-ya. |
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Dennis King
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 02:09 pm: |
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"Gráinne Mhaol" is the Irish spelling of her nickname - or perhaps, nom de guerre?! Deirtear gur thugtaí "maol" uirthi toisc go raibh a cuid gruaige an-ghearr - "cropped hair". |
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Seosamh
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 04:48 pm: |
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Hmmm. Her trip to London to meet Elizabeth I is sounding more like a date than a political encounter.
_The Irish Language_ by Máirtín Ó Murchú, by the way, has a picture of a page from the Irish phrasebook prepared for Elizabeth I by Christopher Nugent in the late 1500s. (Ó Murchú's book is a wonderful concise, illustrated description of the language and its history, but is long out of print.)
If I remember correctly Nugent's phrasebook was in preparation for Elizabeth's encounter with Gráinne Mhaol. (A less certain memory is that Elizabeth was an accomplished linguist -- I don't imagine Gráinne was big on learning languages.) The phrasebook refers to the language as "Iryshe", a nice little object lesson to people who think that the Irish started to call their language "Irish" as a result of modern nationalist excess. |
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Dennis King
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 07:47 pm: |
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Chuala mé (is é sin le rá, dúirt duine éigin áit éigin ar an idirlíon) gur labhair siad Laidin lena chéile. Caithfidh go raibh léann ar Ghráinne, mar bharr ar an iomlán. |
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Seosamh
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 10:53 am: |
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Maith an bhean í mar Ghráinne, mar sin. Áthas orm nach an seansteireatíp a bhí i gceist -- Sacsanach cumasach oilte vs. Éireannach fiáin barbartha neamhoilte. |
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Seosamh Mac Muirí
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 11:54 am: |
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Mhaol nó Umhall? Bhí an tuairim ag duine nó beirt gurbh é an t-ainm treibhe, (tuis. ginide iolra ó cheart) ba bhun leis an ainm. Bhéarfadh sé sin 'Gráinne Umhall' (nó 'Gráinne hUmhall'?) mar leagan. Tagraíonn Anne Chambers -1979 - don tuairim sin 'Umhall' ach gur 'Umhaill' atá aici, agus don 'Mhaol'. (lch. 55) (An Dá Umhall a bheith i gceist go luath sa saol a thug luaineacht na huimhreach, measaim.)
Is dóigh go bhféadfaí a aicmiú leis an athrú 'fuar' > faor, agus 'buachaill' > baochaill, 'bruach' > braoch, (más í an fhuaim -ao- a cuireadh léi sa deireadh). |
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